Korean Club Double Date
"Dan R. and Lunotick"
I used to be a big fan of standard ASF routine-based indirect game,
but I've seen a huge improvement in my game in the past six
months
thanks to lots of field work and the teaching of Vincent and
Sebastian. They are incredible PUAs and teachers, and I'm grateful
to
them for vastly improving my life.
My wing for this LR is Lunotick. He's
also a
theApproach student - he took a bootcamp in NYC about
a
month ago. He's shown incredible improvement - in a little
over a
month, he's gone from being unable to approach to f-closing
virgins
same night. We have great wing chemistry because we were both taught
by theApproach, and because we're also good friends outside of pickup.
Keys to Getting this Lay
-Dressing well – subtly standing out, but not peacocking
to the
point of looking stupid
-Excellent wing chemistry
-Opening with a situational opener, followed by my completely
spontaneous and direct Natural Game
-Not being deterred by their broken English
-Kinoing right away
-Being playful, making them open up and have fun
-Not wasting time talking to the whole group
-Splitting the chicks up fast
-Turning her on physically with dancing
-Decisively isolating her to a couch
-Maintaining a playful party frame in the loud club, and a screening
frame when it was quiet enough to talk
-Having no weird pauses or moments of indecision
-Tight qualification by giving sincere, genuine compliments
-Making out and feeling the chick up in the club to get her turned
on
-Decisively moving for extraction
-Decisively splitting the chicks up at my place
Pre-approach
Lunotick and I roll into Avalon early, around 10:30. There's not too
many people there yet. We're psyched though - we've been
waiting to
sarge together for a month since the last time he came up to Boston,
and I want to see how much he's improved since his theApproach bootcamp.
We're both dressed well, subtly peacocked. I'm wearing black
pinstripe slacks, a bright blue shirt, a silver necklace and a white
and grey hookah shell necklace. I also have spikey tall hair, which
makes me stand out more. He's dressed similarly, with a dark
purple
shirt and nice jeans from Express.
As soon as we step in the club, we start opening girls and
socializing. It's a very loud techno club - you have to
project
strongly and pull the girls towards you in order to be heard. The
good thing is that there are three clubs connected, and one of them
has a good, quiet isolated couch area.
We are working direct game in the club, mostly with situational
openers. Because of this, our opening percentage is low. This is
a
good thing though - it saves us from wasting time on girls
who
aren't interested.
This set was our eighth or ninth of the night. By the time we
spotted them, the club was in full swing and the dance floor was
packed. These girls weren't dancing though-they were leaning
up
against a wall, trying to look cool.
In the middle of the club, there's three professional dancers in
red, white and blue lingerie. I roll up to the girl on the right,
put my arm on her shoulder, and ask which one she likes the best.
Unlike most other sets, she doesn't laugh at this - she
points at
the one in the white, and says she likes her, seriously, and asks
me
which one I like. I tell her that I like the one in white too, and
that she has good taste in women and that she'd make a good
lesbian.
This is a little uncalibrated, she's like "Noooo-"
and
turns away
from me a little.
I step back a little, but still kino, and say, "Ohhhh that's
so
cute, you're getting all shy already. You're not shy, are
you?
Because you look so fun." This is a great reframe that I love
to
use
whenever a chick doesn't respond to something I say. It works so
well because it shows that you're not deterred by any little
tests
of your alphaness she may throw your way, and that you've assumed
attraction. Also, it's usually at least half-true-when the
girls
give you negative reactions, it's as much because of their
insecurity as because of anything that you did. That is why I also
say that they look fun - the compliment takes away any real
insecurities they might have had.
She laughs at this, and says that she is a little shy. I laugh
at
this, and put my arm around her and say that's OK, we're
going to
have FUN tonight. I ask her if she dances, and she says she
doesn't.
So I say, you gotta bust out the moves, and I do a little
demonstration, which she loves. Be careful doing this though -
if
you're not coming from the right place, you will literally come
off
as a dancing monkey. Only do this if you love dancing like me, and
you're doing it to have fun with her, not to impress her.
Then, I grab her hand, and make her dance. She dances really dorky,
but it's cute. We do this for a little while, then I grab her
hand
and drag her onto the middle of the dance floor.
This entire time, Lunotick was gaming her friend. We didn't talk as
a
group at all, which was a good thing because it wasn't necessary.
The entire time, I barely acknowledged his girl. To this day, I
don't even know her name...lol. Such is the beauty of direct
game.
Not saying that you should do this all the time, but there are
situations like this when you can.
On the dance floor, I've got my hands all over her body. It's
such
an advantage to be a good dancer at parties and clubs-nothing
gets
girls turned on physically quicker. Of course, it shouldn't be
the
only part of your game, but it will help it tremendously. I'm
teaching her how to dance the whole time, and complimenting her
whenever she does something that I like. We're grinding to the
techno, which actually is possible, and I'm running my hands all
over her body and saying flirty little things in her ears. After
a
little while, I take her hand and move her next door to an adjacent
club, which had the isolated couch area.
We sit down in the couch area with my arm around her, and now we
can
actually talk. I tell her that I'm having a fun time with her,
and
that she must go out to clubs a lot. She says no-it's her
first time
clubbing. I ask her if she's having a good time, and she says
yes,
smiling.
I tell her about my first time in a club, and how I was so awkward
at first but ended up just throwing myself out on the dance floor
and having a blast. This is a good positive story, as well as a
DLV
which helps her connect with me.
The entire time, I am maintaining a SCREENING frame. This is one
of
the most important concepts which Vincent and Sebastian have taught
me lately. Instead of floundering around trying to DHV like most
ASF
guys, our conversation is driven by questions designed to screen
her
for qualities which I like in a girl. I usually ask a question or
make a cold read designed to screen her, and then tell a story to
explain why I find that quality desirable in a woman. I then qualify
her if she answers the question correctly. You can also mix
screening with humor/C&F. An example from our conversation:
Dan: You seem like a really fun person, but are you also smart
and
ambitious?
HB8: (in a Korean accent) Yes-I was homeschooled-my
parents
make me
study very hard-
Dan: That's good. I'm asking you because I'm looking for
a girl
who's balanced - who can have fun, but also has her life
together.
Most people, either they're really studious and study all the
time,
or they're crazy party dudes and get drunk all the time. I like
that
you can do both-hey, you don't get drunk all the time, do
you? (more
playful screening)
HB8: Nooo, no-.well, sometime
Dan: Uh oh, I think you do! I'm going to have to be like your
dad,
and spank you when you do bad things like that (said in a gentle,
playful tonality)
HB8: (laughing) Noooo-.noooo
We talk like this, where I intersperse playfulness with serious
screening questions. Screening questions demonstrate value better
than any DHV story. With DHV stories, it's usually fairly obvious
that you're trying to raise your value if you tell stories with
the
intention of DHVing. With screening questions, you are actually
demonstrating high value behavior as opposed to trying to verbalize
it subtly.
At a high point in the conversation, I turn her face towards me
so
that our lips are almost touching. I look into her eyes for a few
minutes, then kiss her softly. She's into it, and it escalates
into
a full makeout. I swing her onto my lap, and keep kissing her while
running my hands up and down her body. My isolation plan is to get
her really turned on by making out, and then lead her out of the
club with no explanation. It's going beautifully-I'm
rubbing my
hands all over her body, feeling her tits and thighs and rubbing
her
pussy through her skirt. Then, I take her hand, and lead her to
the
door.
When we get to the door, suddenly she freaks out. She's like no,
I
have to find my friend, I have to leave with my friend, she's
staying with me. I'm unfazed by this, I know Lunotick has been
gaming
her, and that it's on with this chick, and that it's probably
equally as on with his. I call Lunotick, and we meet up with him
and
his girl, and head back to the isolated couch area.
It turns out, Lunotick's chick had a little more ASD and had been
looking for her friend. He'd gamed her well though - when
we
were
all together again, they resumed making out on their couch. We did
the same, but I don't rub her pussy or tits too blatantly because
I
know she'll be more shy with her friend there, even though
she's
making with a guy herself.
After a little while, these chicks are ready for extraction. Lunotick
tells them that we're going to get some food, and asks them if
they're hungry. A very alpha, solid extraction move. They say
yes-so
we all leave the club together, and start walking down towards some
restaurants in the direction of my house.
It's about 2:00 by this time, and everything's closed. We
were
genuinely looking for someplace to eat - but there was nothing
open.
We walk about two miles down the road in the direction of my house.
The whole time, we kept the girls apart, and we were playfully
flirting with them. I was singing to my girl, and made her sing
to
me. I told my girl that we were having a race, and starting running
down the street. Fun stuff like that.
Anyways, after we pass the last restaurant, we tell the girls I
have
food at my place, and keep walking towards my house. By this time,
they're complaining because they've walked over two miles in
high
heels-lol. I'm like awww-poor babies-and make
a
really sad pouty
face, which makes my girl laugh. We keep walking, and eventually
get
to my house.
We're all thirsty, so I decide to make some smoothies. I used to
work at Jamba Juice back in the day, so my smoothies are fucking
good. But for some reason, tonight my blender is crapping out on
me,
and it's not blending. So I kind of poke it with a wooden spoon,
and
when I pull it out, half of the spoon is gone, broken off in the
blender. I'm like, fuck, but I don't feel like making another
smoothie, so I just blend it more and serve them.
They're good, as always, except they have little woodchips and
splinters in them which you have to pick out. We have fun doing
it,
seeing who gets the biggest splinters in their drinks. I think it
was a good sign about how relaxed we were that we could turn
something as weird as having a smoothie with woodchips in it into
something fun.
I drink mine, picking out a good amount of wood, and then took
my
chick by the hand and told her I was giving her a tour of the house.
She wasn't done with hers yet, but I didn't want to hesitate
or
break the continuous flow of action in any way. I show her some
pictures in my house, the kitchen, and then show her our basement,
which is decorated for parties. Then, I take her upstairs "to
see
if
my housemates are home." Nobody is, but of course it doesn't
really
matter, I take her into my room, and sit down with her on the bed.
My room is really messy, and for some reason Lunotick had bought this
huge ass 40 pack of Inspiral condoms and scattered them all over
my
table. Fortunately, she doesn't notice this because I kept the
continuous flow of action moving, but this could have freaked her
out because it implies that I am a player who fucks many other
girls. This would have been very incongruent with my sincere
compliments, and direct game.
I make out with her more, and feel her tits through her clothes.
I
turn the lights out and close the door before I remove any of her
clothing, I used to take some of her clothes off first, but I've
found you get more LMR that way. As it is, I escalate slowly, making
sure her extremely turned on before I reward her with more
escalation. I get no LMR at all. As I'm rolling a condom on my
dick,
she tells me that this is her first time. I kiss her softly, look
in
her eyes, and tell her that I'll make it really special for her.
I put my dick in her slowly, and she's like, it hurts, it hurts.
I
tell her I'll be gentle with her, and slowly start moving in and
out. She asks me if I like it, and I tell her I love it, that she
feels so good. She says that it still hurts. I'm trying to go
slow,
but I'm used to railing on my girlfriend, who loves to be fucked
hard, so I'm finding it difficult. After a while, I'm able to
move
at a halfway decent pace, which still hurts her, but she's turned
on
enough so it's bearable. I fuck her in a few different positions,
then cum inside her.
Afterwards, we cuddle and talk. I tell her that I really like her,
and that this night is really special to me. I fuck her again to
ensure conversion, then we go to sleep in each other's arms.
For some reason, I wake up really early. I wake her up and fuck
her
one more time. This time, I can move at a more normal pace without
hurting her as much. Even though the sex hurt for her because she
was a virgin, I think I solidly anchored myself to sexual pleasure
for her, and that she is well on her way to conversion, more so
because I was her first.
It turns out that Lunotick also fucked his chick on the couch
downstairs. This dude is really incredible...his chick was also
a
virgin, and was giving lots of LMR. He told me that he had to take
her panties off about four times, but he just plowed through it.
People were walking in the front door and through the living room
where they were in, and he just kept going and banged her anyways.
We all get breakfast together the next day. I #close my girl on
the
subway, and Lunotick and I head off to the Boston Lair GSF to do some
more sarging ;).
Total time from approach to lay was approximately four hours.
I think my girl is well on her way to conversion, and is definitely
girlfriend material. I've set up a frame of Mutual Value
Escalation
with her, where we do things together cooperatively. I pay for some
things, and I tell her to pay for others. I will help her do
something when she needs help, and in turn she helps me. She's
very
submissive, and isn't going to question me because she's not
my only
girlfriend.
Again, the keys to getting this lay were:
-Dressing well – subtly standing out, but not peacocking
to the
point of looking stupid
-Excellent wing chemistry
-Opening with a situational opener, followed by my completely
spontaneous and direct Natural Game
-Not being deterred by their broken English
-Kinoing right away
-Being playful, making them open up and have fun
-Not wasting time talking to the whole group
-Splitting the chicks up fast
-Turning her on physically with dancing
-Decisively isolating her to a couch
-Maintaining a playful party frame in the loud club, and a screening
frame when it was quiet enough to talk
-Having no weird pauses or moments of indecision
-Tight qualification by giving sincere, genuine compliments
-Making out and feeling the chick up in the club to get her turned
on
-Decisively moving for extraction
-Decisively splitting the chicks up at my place
I hope this Lay Report destroys the following limiting beliefs:
-That Natural Game doesn't work in loud club environments.
-That you cannot game chicks who speak broken English
I'd like to thank Andres, who generously got us VIP passes for
the
club even though he couldn't make it himself. Once again, I would
like to thank Vincent and Sebastian for everything they've taught
me - without their instruction, I would not have gotten this
lay.
I
would especially like to thank Vincent, for showing me that it
is
possible to game chicks who speak broken English, when it frustrated
me so much previously. And finally, I have to thank Lunotick for his
great wingmanship and give him props for the huge improvement
he's
shown in the past month. It's been incredible dude, and I look
forward to the next time we hang out.
-Dan
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