Street -> Phone -> Lay
"Dan R."
This was one of my tougher lays in a while, as well as a pretty
unusual one. I
met this girl while street sarging about a month and a half ago,
and almost all
of the gaming took place on the phone. I also think along with report
I wrote
on the Korean girls with Lunotick, this report shows my full range
as a PUA.
Those girls were really shy, while this chick was a hardcore party
girl. This
report will show a different side of my game for your reading pleasure.
Enjoy.
Keys to the Lay:
1. Dominance -- Always maintaining a dominant frame, mostly
non-verbally
2. Not being fazed at all when she tested my value (shit-tests)
3. Persistence -- I called this girl for over a month and a half,
had her flake
on me twice before I got the lay
4. Teasing and busting on her ***from the right frame of mind***
not to cover
up for insecurities
5. No hesitation -- on the initial approach, number close, or the
final
isolation move
6. Preventing her from talking and thinking logically in order to
overcome LMR.
Initial Approach:
I'm chillin with some bros from the Boston Lair down in Newbury
Street, a high
class shopping district. This is about a month an a half ago. It's
a pretty big
group of us, like four or five. Just as we all meet up, I see two
HBs walking
down the street and approach without hesitation. THIS IS KEY.
Hesitation speaks of low value. A goal that new guys should work
towards is to
be able to approach without even consciously thinking about it.
A good example
of this is my man Lunotick -- for anyone
who's sarged with him, you'll see him spot a set of girls he likes
and
instantly start walking in their direction. It's almost like he
can't
consciously control it -- he just automatically does it.
Anyways -- the HBs are approaching from the opposite direction.
I stop them
with "hey guys" from about ten feet away, in order to
give them time to hear me
and stop. Once I have their attention, I open the hotter one direct.
"Hey, I
saw you walking here, and I like your style. You look good."
She giggles and smiles, and says thanks. She has braces! I tease/compliment
her
on her braces. "Awww....that's so cute, I love your braces."
She laughs again,
and starts telling me about why she has braces when shes in her
twenties. And
boom, I'm in.
The important things to notice about how I opened were that I opened
without
hesitation, I opened from far enough away to give them time to stop,
and that I
opened direct, not with an excuse. Also, what I can't convey in
this report but
is important to opening moving sets is having a commanding presence,
which will
cause sets to be inclined to listen to you rather than blow you
off.
Anyways -- I ask them if they're in college, as a set up question
to create
material to vibe off of. My girl's a college student in the area,
I tell her a
few stories I'd heard about her college, she shares a few also.
It turns out
her friend just graduated from high school...wooooooooo. I bust
on her friend
for that, asking her if she goes to any crunk high school parties.
She tells me
that the parties are lame at her high school, and I tell her about
the time I
went to this party my freshman year of college, and met this girl
who told me
she was a sophomore. So I was like cool, I like older girls. And
she's like no,
I"m a sophomore in HIGH SCHOOL...and I'm like, fuck. They laugh.
I ask if she
gets crunk at her high school dances, she's like nah, they're lame.
I'm like,
how can you not have a good time at high school dances...with chaperones
and
shit...and the slow dancing of course. I do a little demonstration
on her of
middle school style slow dancing, where you're standing like three
feet away
from the other person and barely touching them with your fingertips.
We do a
little slow dancing in the street, she's lovin' it.
The other guys are kind of standing in a group to the side, talking
amongst
themselves and watching me run the set. This is cool, because I
like to open by
myself. But now, I need someone to occupy HB Highschool here while
I rap with
my girl. I gesture over to them, and I'm like "come join the
A-crowd here." My
man VISHIZZLE, who specializes in pimping high school girls, steps
up and joins
the group. He's peacocked, and by peacocked I mean wearing NICE
flashy clothes,
not a fucking wizard suit. We talk about this for a while, and all
agree that
he looks pimp.
I lightly screen my girl. I cold read her as being a party girl,
I"m right. I
ask if she can dance. She's like, of course. I tell her that's awesome,
I love
girls who can dance. I tell her how there's so many people who are
afraid to
just cut loose and have fun, and that you gotta chill with the people
who don't
give a fuck like that. I tell her we should hit up a club sometime,
and she can
show me how to dance. She's like sure, so I #close her, tell her
we'll make
plans for Friday and split. I talked to these girls for about five
minutes
total before the #close.
Important things: This is a fairly typical time for a number close
for me.
TALKING TO A GIRL FOR LONGER WON'T MAKE HER ANY LESS LIKELY TO FLAKE.
I can't
emphasize this enough. More rapport does not necessarily equal less
flakes.
More VALUE causes less flakes. If you hesitate and tread water for
twenty
minutes before you number close her, this DETRACTS from your value.
If you just
want a #, usually aim for a timeframe of a 5-10 minute convo.
Phone game:
By far the most important part of this lay was the phone game.
I called her up
in a couple days, and we talk. She'd just come back from an entire
weekend of
partying...she's a pretty serious party girl. She tells me some
good stories
from the weekend, and I'm like dude, you gotta come to the parties
at our house
and get shit started. I tell her about a few of the crazy times
we had at our
house parties last year. This is a good commonality that we have...we're
both
the uninhibited party dudes in our groups who love drinking, dancing
and good
times.
I screen her for having a balanced lifestyle, and not just partying
all the
time. She tells me that she does, she works a lot and is paying
her own way
through college. This is good. I go lighter on the screening than
I normally
would, because she's such a party girl. After about half an hour,
I tell her we
should hit up a club this Friday. She's like, sure, and we make
plans to meet
up at my house and pregame, then head over.
Friday comes, and she calls up and cancels. No big deal, I go out
with a few of
my boys instead. I call her up again a few days later, same drill.
I display
value by being dominant and having a fun party vibe. She's very
dominant
herself. I find that if you can be alpha over girls who try to be
very
doiminant, they will love you for it because very few guys are able
to do that.
Most guys will bitch out and let her own the frame, they key is
to sure of
yourself and never be fazed when she tries to test your value.
Anyways, I set up another club day2 for next Saturday, she says
she can't make
it, she has to work. I'm like, that's cool, and I just keep going.
we talk for
a little while more, then I go to bed.
She called me again next week...once again she was eager to talk
and loving the
conversation, but she wouldn't meet up.
A few weeks go by, and play phone tag back and forth calling each
other
sporadically. Same MO -- fun, dominant party vibe, light screening,
going for
meetups and not being fazed when she said she couldn't.
One night, we have about 15-20 people over for a small party, and
I tell her
she should drop by. She tells me she'll be in the area later, but
she doesn't
know if she can come. She's like, if I come over, I'll have to stay
over your
house for the night. I'm like "alright, cool" in a frank,
direct tone which
lets her know that I want to fuck her and that I'm completely comfortable
doing
so.
This was the most important test of my value that she did to me.
She did other
things to to test me -- most notably the flaking, and the calling
but not
wanting to meet up. The correct way to handle these tests is to
persist
confidently past them, and not show the slightest trace of being
fazed or upset
by them. This test was different though. I hesitate to call it a
"shit-test,"
which has kind of a negative connotation, she was actually testing
me through
showing interest in me.
This is the type of test that many guys would fail. Either they
would make the
mistake of being overeager and be like "gee golly, that'd be
awesome!!!" Or,
they'd do even worse and try to fake disinterest, saying shit like
"Eww you're
my bratty little sister, you can't sleep over, I don't think of
you in that
way, blah blah blah." Both responses make you look like a pussy
who is of lower
value. The correct response is to let her know, mostly through your
tonality,
that A. You want to fuck her B. You'd consider it completely normal
if she came
over to be fucked, and C. That if she comes over, you are going
to fuck her
until she can't walk for a few days.
Anways, she never makes it over that night. We have a good time
anyways though.
My long-time beer pong partner shook some rust off our game and
kicked some ass
after a tough initial game where we got beat by a team with a girl
on it. One
of my friends from the lair comes over, and we smoke a few bowls
and grab some
dogs.
A few nights later, she calls again and asks if she can sleep over,
I'm like,
sure. I start drinking a little and watching the Pats game with
my boys, and
she calls me and tells me shes at the train stop near my house.
I finish
watching the first half and watch Flutie throw that sick touchdown
pass, then
head out to meet her.
Lay:
I meet her, and she's dressed to kill. Black stiletto heels, with
tight, dark
jeans which show off her ass well. Tight, black and white tank top
topped off
with gold necklaces and earrings. She looks amazing, and she's obviously
put a
lot of effort into her looks tonight.
I greet her with a hug right away. I find that this is good to
do on dates, to
set the tone right from the beginning and get kino going immediately.
I ask her
how her day went, and she starts telling me about how she had to
work all day,
and it was so stressful, etc. I spin her negativity into a good
conversational
topic by talking about how I had to work all day today too, but
it was all good
because when I got home I busted out a sick come from behind win
in fooseball
over my friend.
We get home, and speak of the devil, my friend is right there nerding
out on
his computer. I go the the freezer and grab a handle of vodka, and
take a few
swigs. We hang out in his room for a while...ordinarily, I would
just have
headed up to my room, but this helped my game because this guy is
my best
friend, and we socially proof each other well. After a few minutes,
I take her
down to show her the work we did on our basement to have parties
there this
fall. I tell her she should drop by, I'd love to see her at parties
here, and
she says she definitely will.
We kill the music, and roll upstairs to my room on the third floor.
She goes
straight to the bed and lays down. I turn on some music, take off
my shoes and
lie down beside her. I whisper in her ear a little bit, then turn
her over and
start making out with her.
She's really into it right off the bat...then she pulls away, and
she's like
nooo...I have to get some sleep. Ahahahaha. I take off my shirt,
turn off the
lights and hop into bed with her.
I turn her over again and start making out with her. Again, she
pulls away and
starts talking about her aunt or some dumb shit. I actually give
her a response
and talk for a little while, which was a mistake.
This pattern went on for about twenty minutes. We'd make out, I'd
feel her up a
little, and she's pull away and try to break her state by talking
about logical
stuff. Finally I wise up to what's happening and tell her that she's
not
allowed to talk in my bed any more.
I get her shirt off -- she pulls away again. She's like, the only
reason why I
let you get away with that is because it's really hot in here, and
I bust out
laughing. She's like noooooooooo, reaaaaaaaaaaly. We can't have
sex tonight,
I'm not a slut. I'm like, alright, that's cool, and lay back
down on the pillow
behind her.
I do a little "freeze-out" of sorts, although I don't
think that's a good word
for it. I was still cuddling and touching her, just took a little
break from
feeling her up. I was going to keep going in a few minutes, but
before I get
the chance she gets out of bed, takes her pants off, and lays back
down beside
me. She's like, "it's hot in here." Then she starts rubbing
her ass against my
cock and making these soft little porno moans. I manage to keep
a straight
face.
I let her do this for a little while, then I climb on top of her
and start
making out with her again, rubbing my hands all over her body. I
push my
erection up against her pussy, and she's grinding herself against
it. I take my
shorts off, so I'm on top of her naked, and take off her bra. She's
stroking my
cock, and AGAIN she tries to break her state by talking logically.
She's like
"Alright, we have two options tonight…” I'm like,
shut up, and I kind of put my
cock near her face so that she can blow me. She gets the hint, and
starts
giving me head.
Now for normal girls it's probably going to cause lots more
LMR if you tell
them to shut up and stick your cock in their mouth when she gives
you
resistance. With girls who are used to calling the shots like this
one though,
the way to get over LMR is to just dominate the fuck out of her
and tell her
exactly what she's going to do.
I take off her panties and start fingering her.
I start licking that shit, jlaix style. It takes her
forever to
cum, but finally she cums in my face, and it's delicious.
We take a little break, and my dick gets soft. She gets me back
up to speed by
giving me head, and then I put a condom on and stick it in her.
Unfortunately,
I put too much lube in the condom which makes my dick too sensitive,
so I don't
last too long. I get about ten minutes of hard fucking in there
though before I
blow it inside her. I eat her out again, then we go to sleep.
I get about two hours of sleep before I have to go to work for
yet another
twelve hour shift. Gotta say, it was worth it though ;).
Again, the keys:
1. Dominance -- Always maintaining a dominant frame, mostly
non-verbally
2. Not being fazed at all when she tested my value (shit-tests)
3. Persistence -- I called this girl for over a month and a half,
had her flake
on me twice before I got the lay
4. Teasing and busting on her ***from the right frame of mind***
not to cover
up for insecurities
5. No hesitation -- on the initial approach, number close, or the
final
isolation move
6. Preventing her from talking and thinking logically in order to
overcome LMR.
-Dan
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